Ten Minutes with Rainmaker Raymond Pingree
Raymond Pingree, Doris Westmoreland Darden Professor and associate professor in the
Manship School of Mass Communication, researches political communication and new media
with a particular focus on how good old-fashioned journalism can support a stronger
democracy.
In this interview, he discusses the impact of 鈥渇ake news鈥 accusations and how the
public should trust the media both more and less.

Raymond Pingree
Tell me about your work on media trust.
A common question is, should people trust the media? That鈥檚 kind of the wrong question.
We don鈥檛 want people to be dupes or be completely cynical. The better questions to
ask are, which ways should we trust the media more, and which ways should we trust
it less? We need to trust media more to verify information. You have to trust that
journalists are checking their sources and reporting the facts and that they work
for an organization that will fire them if they don鈥檛.
Generally, there鈥檚 less media bias than people think. Not everything is opinion. There
are neutral referees of fact, and they鈥檙e called journalists.
So, we should trust media more? How about your argument that we should trust media
less?
The other area I鈥檝e focused on in my research is to get people to trust the news less
to prioritize problems. Don鈥檛 assume whatever is covered in the news is what anyone
thinks are the most important issues. We hear a lot about scary and new things, and
those things aren鈥檛 necessarily happening often or affecting a lot of people. The
most widespread problems can feel too commonplace to get much news coverage. Cancer
and heart disease will never get the same saturation in media coverage as an exotic
disease outbreak like Zika, Ebola, or coronavirus, but those two kill far more people,
and do so every year.
News media will always focus on situations where there is high conflict and drama,
where things are changing fast and scary. News is about things that are new, inherently.
So, if you take cues from the mere fact news is covering something a lot, it鈥檚 easy
to assume they think it鈥檚 the most important. Instead, we need to be thinking for
ourselves about how important things are, based on facts about the severity of each
problem that journalists gather and verify for us.
Tell me about the work you鈥檝e done on how journalists can fight accusations of bias.
What can journalists do when someone calls their work 鈥渇ake news鈥?
The first thing many people tell me when they hear I study media is they think the
media is totally biased. However, research mostly hasn鈥檛 supported this. People who
work in newsrooms are highly sensitized to political bias and there are so many ways
to detect it and avoid it. Journalism is about finding credible sources, checking
facts, and assessing evidence. One of our most hopeful research findings has been
that when journalists speak up for themselves, explain how they do their work, and
defend their own impartiality, it helps.
The trend of calling mainstream journalism 鈥渇ake news鈥 has had one positive effect
in that it鈥檚 led to many op-ed pieces defending journalism. When journalists say,
鈥淲e鈥檙e not fake news, we鈥檙e the umpire politics desperately needs,鈥 this works. For
a long time, journalists mostly avoided responding to bias accusations out of principle.
They assumed the best way to show the critics were wrong was to ignore them and just
do good work. But we know from persuasion research that when you only hear one side鈥檚
arguments and the other side isn鈥檛 responding, you interpret that as the other side
conceding the point.
Journalists need to speak up and defend their work and their reporting; let people know that it鈥檚 fact, not opinion.
The media is often portrayed as powerful. How do you study this power?
People assume the media has big effects, but research into media effects has often
been disappointing. This led me to the methods contribution of my research. Just like
in medical research, you need true experiments with random assignment to be sure what
is causing what. But traditionally, the way people have done experiments in media
effects has been something called one-shot forced exposure, meaning randomly assign
someone to read one treatment news story or one control news story, or some variation
of that. I always had a nagging thought that we needed a more realistic approach with
repeated exposure, choice, and real and timely stimuli. So, I created a custom news
portal that we pay people to use as their main news source for about a week, and just
like Google News, it鈥檚 updated 24 hours a day with stories from many sources. We don鈥檛
tell them what stories to read. We just manipulate the presence or absence of certain
types of stories in the portal, such as fact checks. But it鈥檚 not pre-planned fake
fact checks written ahead of time by us, it鈥檚 whatever real fact check stories happen
to be published during the study. This means it鈥檚 still a true experiment with random
assignment, but it鈥檚 random assignment to the cumulative effects of that whole category
of real news content that is being published at that time.
How did you choose this field of research to begin with?
I was a software engineer in my previous career. I became really interested in politics
and media and wanted to somehow help make our national discussion more rational. I
was not expecting to become an academic. I just really believe that communication
can solve problems, and I care about making our democracy work better a lot more than
how to make a successful website or a more efficient algorithm. I still use those
skills in my research, but I鈥檓 focused on making change through better communication
rather than through technology.
How has your view of what constitutes news changed over time?
Communication is about delegating information work to others, so it鈥檚 important that
we trust our sources. One way is to pay attention to major news organizations and
not click on stuff from organizations you鈥檝e never heard of. On top of that, you have
to think for yourself what is really important, knowing that news stories are chosen
based on newsworthiness of events, which is a really different thing than importance
of problems. We can鈥檛 fix the news to make it report on important problems only; we
have to fix the misunderstanding many in the audience have that leads them to take
the mere fact of news coverage as an importance cue. After all, we don鈥檛 call it 鈥渋mportants.鈥
We call it news.
Finally, how do you feel about receiving a Rainmaker award?
I give a lot of the credit for this award to my collaborators and the collaborative
research culture here at Manship, where we have a lot of people pulling a lot of weight,
including great graduate students. A good research culture makes everyone feel valued
and encouraged.
At Manship, we have these professorships that fund our research using funds from generous
donors. This way, I鈥檝e been able to innovate and not worry about satisfying external
funders or sticking to initial plans from a grant proposal written two years before.
I鈥檓 not sure any other university has a system like this, giving its own faculty such
an easy process for getting small research grants to do cool, new things, but I鈥檝e
spent about the last two years creating a new way to do media effects research, and
I wouldn鈥檛 have been able to do such a risky project without my colleagues and this
system. It鈥檚 been a great fit for me, and I鈥檓 so grateful.
I find that a lot of the systems that are supposed to keep people accountable create
pressure to do something predictable. But it鈥檚 not really new science if you already
know the answer. As a researcher, you need to feel less scared. So, maybe the most
important thing about these professorships is they involve very little paperwork and
can be pretty vaguely defined up front, allowing the project to evolve when it needs
to.
Read more on how Pingree鈥檚 work on how on EurekAlert! (December 10, 2018)
The Rainmaker Awards are given each year by the Office of Research & Economic Development, Campus Federal Credit Union, and the Council on Research to faculty who show outstanding research, scholarship, and creative activity for their respective ranks and discipline. The awards recognize both sustained and continuing work, as well as the impact that work has had on faculty members, departments, and our academic community. There are three award categories: Emerging Scholar, Mid-Career Scholar, and Senior Scholar. For each category, an award is offered for a faculty member in the area of Arts, Humanities, Social and Behavioral Sciences, and one in the area of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics.
Emerging Scholar Award
Mid-Career Scholar Award
Michal Brylinski, Biological Sciences
Raymond Pingree, Mass Communication
Senior Scholar Award
Jinx Broussard, Mass Communication
Samithamby 鈥淛ey鈥 Jeyaseelan, Pathobiological Sciences
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